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January 29, 2012 at 11:17 am #3707JeffrosParticipant
Interesting as I have quit taking allopurinol (long story why):
http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/story/2012-01-29/Enriched-skim-milk-good-for-gout-stud…..52824366/1I am going to give this a try? Just thought of you guys when a friend sent me this link.
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I cannot find this product for sale anywhere on the net. Each search results in the story I’ve linked to above. Amazon has nothing for “enriched skim milk” or anything else noted in the story specifically.January 29, 2012 at 8:31 pm #12539Keith TaylorKeymasterJeffros, thanks for the link, but I wouldn't bother looking for that enriched milk. Let me tell you why.
First, here are a couple of related links to the source of your article.
The abstract is at : ard.bmj.com/content/early/2012/01/04/annrheumdis-2011-200156.abstract
There is data about the products used at: ard.bmj.com/content/suppl/2012/01/04/annrheumdis-2011-200156.DC1/annrheumdis-2011-200156_ds2.pdf
You can see from these that the investigation is only looking at gout flares. Whilst I accept that we all want fewer gout flares, that is not the basis of a good gout management plan. A good plan should be centered on getting uric acid down to 5mg/dL. 6 is an option, but gives you little safety margin for natural fluctuations in uric acid level and temperature.
The main author of the latest milk and gout report, Nicola Dalbeth, has done earlier work, which I feel is more significant. I covered this in http://www.goutpal.com/1046/where-is-milk-in-your-diet-for-gout/.
That study showed that skim milk in various forms always reduces uric acid in the blood by about 10%. Whether this is enough or not depends on your starting level.
The later study merely shows that by adding an anti-inflammatory supplement, the milk produces less pain, but that is likely to be true of any anti-inflammatory, not just the two used in this study.
You can see from the products information that the test milk was specifically made for the investigation, so you are unlikely to find it commercially available. I guess you could get the ingredients and make your own, but you might as well use ordinary skim milk to lower uric acid, then use black bean broth or some other anti-inflammatory product to lower inflammation.
January 30, 2012 at 6:28 am #12548zip2playParticipantThe new study included 120 patients who had experienced at least two flare-ups in the previous four months. They were divided into three treatment groups that consumed either lactose powder, skim milk powder or skim milk powder enriched with glycomacropeptide (GMP) and G600 milk fat extract (G600).
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How bizarre, to take skim milk POWDER and add fat extract and water to get some weird version of WHOLE MILK with added whey protein (highly adulterated whey protein.)????
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If milk is good for gout, the just drink milk…it comes from a cow not a chemical plant.
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How about SKIM ?MILK + ALLOPURINOL?(as long as you're making bizarre mixtures.)
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As GP said, if?milk lowers your serum uric acid, it is good. If it lowers it below 5 or 6 mg/dL it is good ENOUGH to treat gout.?
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January 30, 2012 at 6:25 pm #12550Keith Taylor (GoutPal Admin)Participantzip2play said:
How bizarre, to take skim milk POWDER and add fat extract and water to get some weird version of WHOLE MILK with added whey protein (highly adulterated whey protein.)????
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If milk is good for gout, the just drink milk…it comes from a cow not a chemical plant.
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I have just read the webmd review of this investigation which closes with:
Some of the researchers of this study are inventors in a patent application related to milk products and gout.
Not bizarre – bizness!
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